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by ben_w 896 days ago
I asked an Iranian coworker if the Iranian government is serious or if it's just a bad translation when we hear them call America and Israel "the Great Satan". Apparently they are entirely sincere about that.
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Well the US did help Saddam Hussein target Iran with chemical weapons in the 80's, and helped Britain remove Mossadegh from power in 1953.

It seems like the main thing Iran has done against the US is through proxies, which reflects modern US strategy.

removing Mossadegh was the worst thing the US did to Iran, followed by helping the current regime to get into power.
I mean, US/UK did demolish the democracy in Iran due to their greed for oil. So, its not like their anger is completely out of thin air.

Having said that, it doesn't condone the actions of the Iranian regime as well.

That they're now a theocracy makes them sincerely calling anyone "satan" an even worse thing to pair with them having nuclear weapons.
Err, "the focus of evil in the modern world" then?
If this was a game of telephone, yours would be the mildest interpretation I can imagine of my conversation went with my coworker, but my main impression from them was the Iranian theocracy sees the US as the actual literal devil incarnated.
President Reagan's rather than mine (hence the quotes).
Ah, ok, I thought you were suggesting what Iran thought of the US, I didn't realise it was an old quote from a famous person.

Looking up the quote, Regan was talking about the USSR? If so I think it may be stronger than that sentiment, but I'm not 100% sure owing (in addition to the previous point about games of telephone) to not having lived through the worst of the Cold War — and the small bit I did live through before the USSR collapsed was entirely in the UK and my experience as a child contained more fear of the IRA than the USSR as the IRA were in the news while the USSR were, (like the Klingons that were a thin analogy for them), only in films and on TV.

The policies of Iranian regime are in the least bit affected by longing for lost democracy.
yes, but regaining democracy is a hard battle. So, when you destroy it in the first time, it is not a surprise that warlords keep getting control of power till by some random fluctuation, the tide changes. In western world, it took almost 300 years for democracy to be stabilized.

US also helped current regime when it first gained power.

Fair point!