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by cabalamat 895 days ago
> This is the national internet regulator proposing that it would require that everyone, adult and children alike, would upload their state ID and live selfies, to porn sites to have biometric processing of their facial images performed. Resulting, amongst other things, in an effective register of porn preferences for adults and a collection of selfies of children kept by the porn sites for six years (required to prove they have complied with the regulation, you see).

I'm sure this data would never fall into the wrong hands or be misused :-)

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> I'm sure this data would never fall into the wrong hands or be misused :-)

Ireland has a long history of data scandals. One that springs to mind is illegally keeping phone records for years (knowingly in violation of EU law) then illegally accessing them (in violation of Irish law) and then using them in multiple murder convictions, including the very sketchy conviction of Graham Dwyer [0].

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/apr/05/mobile-phone-dat...

To be clear about the 'sketchy' conviction of Dwyer: there is no doubt about his guilt, and his defence essentially amounts to "ah, but you should not have been able to catch me".

In the US, as I understand it, if the cops violate the rules about gathering evidence then the conviction can be quashed. It's not so automatic over here. So his appeal has been rejected, and no one is upset about that apart from him.

As another example, in 2016 or 2017 the Irish police (Garda Síochána) installed a tracking device on a suspect's vehicle. Data collected from this was used in evidence some years later[0]. The suspect's vehicle had left the jurisdiction (crossed the non-border into Northern Ireland) while being tracked, and the Gardaí used this data which they are not allowed to do. So what was done? Well, the judge ruled that the Gardaí hadn't intended that, so it's ok, the data - including data collected outside the jurisdiction - is admissable. "Lol, lmao" added the judge. I know, I know, I can hear an alarm in your head going off as you read this, so I'll throw you another detail you'll love: this was heard in a non-jury court, yeah, that's right a court of three judges, none of this twelve of your peers nonsense.

It's all sounds a little less precise than you might like, a little more like muddling through than the 'majesty of the law' vibe. And it kinda is. Mostly works though.

[0] https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/tracker-device-planted-o...

That’s probably the intent. create massive friction without outright forbidding it
Lol, the fact you're downvoted shows how little critical thinking some people on this site have.

The US has done things like this for generations, the 'red scare' is a perfect example of the state creating lists of people's political and personal preferences and using them against them. Knowing the list exists and you could get on it my standing too close to those thoughts not approved was used as a force to keep people only thinking 'good thoughts'.

The intent is to ask for ID in order to connect to any website, the article already says that this law will apply to any video sharing site including facebook, twitter, tiktok and even mastodon...
Also putting anyone watching non-straight porn as a huge risk in the current political climate.
anyone "doing their own research" can probably get an exemption
What does that mean?
It's a common excuse used by several anti-LGBQ activists who later got caught viewing said porn.
What does that content have to do with LGBTQ exactly?
You don't see the hypocrisy of anti-LGBTQ activist and politicians looking at gay porn?
See Pete Townshend doing "research".
What do you mean by this?
There are a lot of politicians who hate gays, so being outed to the government isn't exactly ideal.
Kind of like how the Jews didn't think anything of having their religion on their ID cards in early 1930s Germany.
Yeah what's up with that. Already now many service providers like payment processor or online brokerage requests me to upload "a selfie" holding sheet of paper with something written on it, or holding my document. How they arrived to the conclusion that it's acceptable?!
I'm annoyed that it's now a problem for people when it applies to porn. I've been avoiding services that want pictures of my passport and selfies for years now. It was never OK.
This data probably already exists, though. Fingerprinting is more than good enough to identify an individual. Porn sites can easily aggregate this information already.
This data is collected, stored, but not shared. For example, when you arrive at any airports located in China, your facial information (along with walking gait) will be collected by the airport authority. This data, however, is not shared with checkpoints alongside the physical border. It would like a central directive to set up a shared database and the system to correctly utilize the data. I doubt that a simple porn/ entertainment corporation has the ability to do such a thing (even if they somehow are allowed to obtain the data legally).