[Kye]

By this logic, calling people white is racist. White as an identity is completely arbitrary and seems to shift to change who it includes and excludes every few decades. It's a meaningless term that generalizes a vast and diverse array of cultures.

>> "Racism is considering someone's race for something where race is not relevant, the intent behind the act is irrelevant."

The people who popularized the term to describe themselves certainly didn't think it was irrelevant.

[ttyprintk]

But the concept of race is not logical. You can ask questions about whiteness all you want, but those have the same quality of answers as questions about Asianness and Africanness.

[metabagel]

Who says it has to be logical? It’s embedded in the social fabric of the United States. It can’t be dismissed out of hand. It must be recognized and addressed.

[ttyprintk]

People should not fear talking about it. But steer away from phrases like “by that logic” —- it’s neither convincing nor rational to seek a more-logical view on race. It is only embedded in social fabric and not found elsewhere.