[1123581321]

I think you're misreading. They are being rejected because the account requires a login to a service that isn't sold via IAP, not because they failed to provide a demo login to reviewers. There's no way they haven't been providing demo logins for Basecamp all these years.

As for review turnaround times, it's been quite awhile since multiple weeks without a response has been normal. In a normal app store submission process, with an app this size, an experienced team can plan to make requested changes with that much lead time before a launch date.

I'm surprised though that they didn't ship this calendar app with a simple calendar you can use without paying. That's how they handled the email app deadlock; there's a temporary random email generator feature that anyone can use, which gives the app the requested out-of-the-box functionality. Seems like the same workaround could have been successful here.

[hightrix]

> They are being rejected because the account requires a login to a service that isn't sold via IAP

I'm extremely skeptical of this claim. I have apps in the app store that behave exactly as you've described and Apple has not rejected any of our submissions. One app uses a third party login, one uses a first party login. One allows for registration within the app, the other requires registration outside of the app.

>it's been quite awhile since multiple weeks without a response has been normal

You are correct that typically reviews are very fast. That said, we recently had a new version of an app take 2 weeks (14 days) to get reviewed and rejected due to a similar, but different, issue. My guiddance is always submit very early (4+ weeks), especially when you have a launch date with marketing or other real-world tie-ins.

There are easy ways to work around Hey Calendar's rejection, but only if you submit early and are prepared to do the work. Similar to your suggestion, providing a "Demo Mode" where a user can see what the app does without login easily solves the rejection issue. I can say this with confidence as I've done it in the past with an app that is still on the app store.

[lawgimenez]

This is correct, I have been rejected multiple times on the App Store too and Basecamp’s app are no different. We all have to abide the rules. Compared that with our Android app of the same app, it got clone to a different Android store and it was very hard to take it down.

We don’t cry over social media, we just do the work.

[1123581321]

Yes, there are apps that sell something from the web and hide it behind a login in their app, and that's the whole functionality. I don't think that's in dispute. There are screenshots of other examples in the dhh article (maybe one is from your company's app.)

If you are saying because such apps exist, Hey can't have been rejected for doing the same thing as those apps do...c'mon, you're an experienced iOS developer, right? :)

Why assume that another developer's experiences are not legitimate when they have a long tenure and multiple apps in the store?

And why mock working 19 days ahead when your guidance is only 11 days longer and your worst case was five days shorter? I could see it if you thought that they should submit extra early because they've been targeted by Apple in the past, but you don't believe that they have been.