[krapp]

A "state" is nothing more than an abstraction, a collective social construct. The monopoly on violence is a franchise granted by the people, not nature. Self-determination can't be a right which only belongs to certain groups of people (say, Americans or Israelis) but not others.

[cncovyvysi]

Do Gazans not have self determination?

[krapp]

Yes, they do, that was my point.