[bequanna]

I guess I don't consider this a legit argument. You could point to negative externalities that are the result of literally everything humans produce/consume.

But if we want to use that metric, OK. I would venture a guess that the production of coffee yields a heck of a lot less suffering than the production of cocaine, heroin or meth. Any far fewer people consume the latter.

[bb88]

Also to further your point: consider blood diamonds, mining of toxic substances, lead batteries, plastic in the oceans, etc.

[ttt11199907]

Yes! These are all things that rely on the subjugation and abuse of other human and are bad for our earth-spaceship