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by BluSyn 897 days ago
What light switches did you use, if any?

I also want to use Shelly dimmers, but I haven’t found simple stateless light switches. I want automation and app control in many cases, but also want simple tactile button for on/off or hold for brightness control. Amazingly hard to find.

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Not OP, but the Shelly 1 works very well as a simple switch, and it supports both physical and remote operations. Not sure what you mean by "stateless", though (I mean, the thing is either on or off?), so that might prevent you from using it, but otherwise it's highly recommended!
I'm pretty sure what they mean by "stateless" is that the manual switch resets any state set wirelessly.
Shelly 1 and Plus 1 (the gen 2 device) allows you to separate the relay from the switch and expose both via API or MQTT.

That's how I have my lights setup - normal light switches (switched live) will toggle the switch sensor which is picked up by HomeAssistant which then either toggles the relay (for non smart lights) or sends a command to a light group (Zigbee IKEA Tradfri bulbs, using a Sonoff Zigbee dongle for comms) to turn on or off.

The only issue you might have is that they require a neutral, so unless you have a neutral behind each switch you'll need to put the Shelly elsewhere, either in the light fitting or ceiling (in my case).

I just use the Ikea trådfri dimmers[1] and have them bound to the lights I want them to control. That way they can do on/off and dim.

They no longer seem to offer them. But the replacement might work as well. Support for the device was merged into Z2M last month so not sure if it's already included in the latest release.

1. Predecesor of this: https://www.ikea.com/nl/en/p/somrig-shortcut-button-white-sm...

For that I use Klikaan/Klikuit, I have a whole bunch of these set up throughout the house and they're pretty easy to use and configure. Outside of NL these are sold under the 'Intertechno' brand. Batteries seem to last forever, I've had these in the house for five years now and never had to change a single battery.
OP here, the switches we used are push-button Berker switches. I can't say I'm 100% happy with them, they look nice and are tactile but they are the "toggle" type - push and hold to either dim or brighten (never really know which) then again for the other direction, or quick push for on/off. My other annoyance is that sometimes a quick push does not register, but I don't know if this is because of the switch or because of the Shelly dimmer... I think more likely it's the dimmer.
Not cheap but Leviton 5657-2W might be the one you want