[robby_w_g]

> "This family has two mommies. They love each other so proudly and they all go marching in... the... big parade," sing the lyrics. Other terms featured include "trans," "non-binary" and "queer."

> “Love is love is love you see, and everyone should love proudly,”

Acknowledging LGBTQ people are capable of love is somehow an example of “culture war”. It’s incredible people can be so bothered by a simple, sweet message.

[karmajunkie]

yes, acceptance of others is an overly political message to those of a certain political persuasion. can’t have kids running around thinking whatever they grow into might be ok if it doesn’t comport with mommy and daddy’s worldview.

[lumb63]

Whatever kids grow up into is not okay with most parents. I’d imagine almost everyone would agree with that statement. There are probably traits you wouldn’t want your children to have. You probably wouldn’t be okay with them being gambling or drug addicts, racist, murderers, uneducated, etc.

If parents were truly okay with their children growing up into whatever they happen to grow into, there would be no reason for the parents to impart morals, life lessons, education, proper nutrition, etc., to children. The fact that, for the entire existence of humankind (so far as I can tell), we seem to have done those things, it seems to me that all parents strongly care about what their children grow up to be like.

Why does the idea of a parent wanting to impart their vision of how the world ought to be offend you? If the shoe were on the other foot, and you wanted your children to be raised a particular way, would you appreciate being ridiculed for that?

[johnnyanmac]

>You probably wouldn’t be okay with them being gambling or drug addicts, racist, murderers, uneducated, etc.

Some are objective. Not much interpretation to whaty a gambler or drug addict is. But the sad thing is that "racism" and especially "educated" are highly subjective.

>Why does the idea of a parent wanting to impart their vision of how the world ought to be offend you?

Depends on the vision. Obviously as a black man I'd have an issue with people who's "vision" is that black people are dangerous, dumb, and dirty. I imagine it's the exact same for a lesbian, or a trans person, or even a not rich person.

And of course not all disagreements are equal. I may not prefer a helicopter approach but that is ultimately a choice that does not impact me nor my family. The former, not so much. Your freedom ends where mine begins.

[karmajunkie]

> Why does the idea of a parent wanting to impart their vision of how the world ought to be offend you?

Probably because that vision of "how the world ought to be" is offensive.

[madeofpalk]

What "vision" of the world is it that you're talking about?

[slibhb]

It goes both ways. Maybe you'll teach your kids to be open and tolerant to everything but they'll grow up, convert to Catholicism, and -- gasp -- vote conservative.

[karmajunkie]

Yes, i fully recognize that at least one of my children is likely to enjoy baseball and vote for a Republican at least once in their life, despite my best efforts to show them the light. I will love them anyway.

[dgfitz]

Aww, don’t make baseball political. C’mon.

[karmajunkie]

well, everything is political, but i wasn’t making it so. i just really hate baseball and have never encouraged my kids to play the sport because of that.

[mindslight]

Perhaps you mean 'vote reactionary', as the religious tend to do? Voting conservative means the Democratic party these days - general support of institutions, the United States's standing in the world, law and order, individual freedoms, fiscal responsibility. The contemporary Republican party has rejected these things, instead focusing on some imagined idyllic past and pushing for radical change towards it. The Democratic party certainly has its things it wants to change, but they're much more incremental and not the sweeping sea change of the current Republican agenda.

[The_Colonel]

Bluey is targeted towards pre-school children. I'm not really bothered if my 4-year-old daughter sees stuff like this, it's just that she won't really understand things like "non-binary". It seems like a topic more appropriate for older children - maybe from age 8 or later?

[lukeck]

At my kids’ childcare, by far the most popular educator is non-binary. They do a great job of listening to the kids, and talking to them without talking down to them. Come to think of it, the way they interact with the kids actually reminds me a fair bit of the parents in Bluey.

Both my kids (3 and 5 but now at school) have said stuff like “Today we did x with Greg. He’s not exactly a boy and not exactly a girl.” Then they get on with their day. To them, it’s just another person that’s a bit different to them.

[The_Colonel]

I guess this is more common in US then.

I live in a pretty liberal European city, yet I haven't met any non-binary person. I know exactly one trans person, and only remotely (she lives in US). I guess to me, this topic seems "advanced", perhaps "irrelevant" in a way for such a small kid. There are many other things she needs to learn about, which she will commonly experience in the real world.

[michaelt]

> I live in a pretty liberal European city, yet I haven't met any non-binary person.

Being nonbinary is kinda unusual, but it's also probably something that's super easy to be closeted about, if you don't know how people will react.

I mean in the 1980s I thought all 900 kids in my high school were straight, and that being gay was super uncommon.

[mixmastamyk]

80s in California... there was a sizable but not exactly large group. No one cared. We all knew "old people" were supposed to care, but it was more likely just a thing everyone had to pretend to care about on TV. None of the old people I knew cared either.

Future "not evenly distributed" and all that.

[johnnyanmac]

Depends on the circle. Tech industry in California, know 2 NBs, and 2 trans people (and then 2 more I knew transitioned after I left work and contact with them). I guess that does fit all the liberal stereotypes that people like to throw at my State.

[dukeyukey]

I'm in London, and I've met a few non-binary people (enbys), and had at least two trans people in my school (one student, one teaching assistant; this was in the mid-2000s).

[throwaway87651]

My 5-year-old understands that her older sibling is non-binary, so perhaps it is an appropriate topic even at this young age.

[Doxin]

She might not understand it yet, but there's value in exposing young children to concepts you'd like them to understand later.

[yummypaint]

Kids have no trouble understanding these things. It's the stunted adults who create problems.

[polotics]

The one thing that could be noted on this point of seeing a toddler-focussed TV show with an LGBTQ acceptance theme, is that there are a lot of other acceptance-worthy themes out there that never make it into toddlers' TV shows. I will not make a list because obviously that would be whataboutism, virtue signalling, I don't know.