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by progrus 891 days ago
Am I supposed to believe that these physiological effects have nothing to do with fear of the virus?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447278/

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If it's psychosomatic then why does it only happen with this specific virus and not, say, with chronic illnesses?
Maybe because covid 19 has been accompanied with an avalanche of commenting along with draconian measures that we haven't seen for at least an entire generation.
Other illnesses still existed during the lockdowns and various other health conditions have forced people to be as isolated for years in the past. Many people got mental problems like depression but no long covid during the pandemic.
I'm not sure why it is so difficult to see the point in my comment.

My argument is that the level of fear inducing information surrounding most people on the planet, associated with covid, was nowhere comparable to fear inducing info associated with any disease and their potentially correlated (or not correlated) potential psychological side effects.

By saying this I'm not claiming that long covid is caused by a psychological side effect of a/ having been infected and b/ the information and fear induced state most people fell into and/or c/ other complex compounded side affects of the measures put in place to fight the pandemic: loss of income, job, sense of safety, isolation and containment driving our minds pretty sick

I'm saying it could be hence finding correlation between covid infection and longer than short term symptoms described in many independent observation MAY be a red herring

Last, an over simplified illustration:

- put, furtively some toxine in food and 1000 consume it. - 800, let's say. get sick then recover entirely in the short term.

- put, some toxin in food, followed by massive information campaigns, hammering everyone day in and out of the presence of a toxin in food, then lock everyone up, have 200 lose their job, lose contact with their closed ones, etc etc - 200, let's say, global knowledge some food was contaminated didn't help an ounce to reduce their consumption, get sick. - 20, let's say, don't fully recover short term and are left with what we would call "long toxin consumption syndrome", suffering various side effects.

And we have research insisting they are seeing correlation between a toxin and long term side effects. Ignoring the social, economical and psychological very potential effect/contribution to these longer term symptoms, I find flagrant lack of hollistic view to phenomenon often lacking scientific researchers.

It’s not psychosomatic, but there usually are multiple contributing factors to serious respiratory disease, and I think it’s OK to consider it as a relevant one of them in many cases.

Fair enough?

There was way more persistent fear-mongering in the media about COVID-19, than anything else in recent years.

(Not arguing for the parent idea, just why this illness may be special, from the fear perspective.)

I was expecting the linked study to support your hypothesis that fear of covid-19 causes long-covid, but unfortunately it was just a writeup of 1 person's opinion of something that might have happened nearly a century ago, with literally 0 experimental methodology (because it appears to be an op-ed rather than an experiment?)

Your hypothesis doesn't seem super likely, though I'd entertain the theory if there were a study showing a linkage here. But as for your literal question, I don't think anyone supposes you specifically must do anything. After all, what's 1 person out of billions?