[dingnuts]

>What ruins everything is overzealous and/or ignorant programmers who don't take any pride in their work

uh you mean overzealous product managers and business owners who never let programmers take their time on anything because quality doesn't matter?

why would I take pride over my employer's property? lol if the code he buys from me is bad, that's his problem, especially since I have to stick to his timelines and am not given sufficient equity and agency to feel ownership over the project.

you know what makes programmers lose their desire to take pride in their work? getting blamed when we're ordered to cut corners, or implement bad designs. fuck right off with that, we're not the ones in power.