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Especially true if that child or its mother has a huge market capitalization, large profit margins, highly-paid employees and shareholders eager to reap some more $$.

If the public starts to see LLMs as highly sophisticated copyright laundromats it would most likely hamper further investment & development in that field.

[FridgeSeal]

> Especially true if that child or its mother has a huge market capitalization, large profit margins, highly-paid employees and shareholders eager to reap some more $$.

This is the bit I don’t get from the “feed everything to machine” LLM-maximalists. Do they think courts don’t take context into account, do they think all actions happen in a vacuum and that they can just skip along and ignore laws at their pleasure because “tee hee it’s totally definitely fair use bro, I’m totally an academic researcher-pinky promise”.

LLM bros ought to stop and have a think before they poison their own well, assuming they haven’t already done so.

[Arainach]

>This is the bit I don’t get from the “feed everything to machine” LLM-maximalists. Do they think courts don’t take context into account, do they think all actions happen in a vacuum and that they can just skip along and ignore laws at their pleasure

An entire generation of unicorn startups believed that (Uber, AirBnB, etc.). We see in the news every day that once you have enough money laws don't apply to you (most things Elon Musk does, the fact that Trump can defy court orders repeatedly and not go to jail, etc.) so yes, this seems entirely plausible.

[FridgeSeal]

> Uber and AirBnB

The 2 darling startups that are now facing increasingly less rosy futures?

Airbnb in particular is facing enough backlash that I’d be surprised if it lasts terribly much longer.

Sure, they get away with it for a while, but not forever.

> We see in the news every day that once you have enough money laws don't apply to you

I agree with you here, but I think this is a much broader conversation about capitalism in general which would be getting a bit off-topic for this particular thread, except to say, capitalist forces aren’t above cauterising a limb if it becomes too annoying or intrudes on the other limbs too much. I think the “AI” limb might be overstating its own importance, and I suspect that if it got too up in everyone’s interests re-profit, it would, as an industry, very quickly find itself being neutered. Capital interests would love to get rid of pesky human labour, but if the alternative is too annoying, they’ll have no objections to going back to grinding people through the system again.

[nradov]

AirBnB will get away with it forever. While short term rentals might get banned in a handful of cities, the service now operates worldwide. The stock might be overvalued but if you examine their financials it's simply not plausible to think that failure is imminent.

[stale2002]

> The 2 darling startups that are now facing increasingly less rosy futures?

As of this moment uber is worth 120 billion and AirBnB is worth 80 billion.

Yes, they got away with it.