[Wytwwww]

> ancient rome and medieval europe are really different

Why? Of course Northern European had different diets (e.g. lard instead of olive oil etc.) but on the Mediterranean cost diets weren't that similar.

> you can enter ketosis every day on a diet of carbohydrates by eating one or two times a day

So being on the brink of starvation all the time? Does not seem sustainable.

> all of this could have applied to most people until relatively recently

Highly unlikely. What makes you think that was the case?

[jdjdjdkdksmdnd]

no dude, its called intermittent fasting. it used to just the way people ate.

[qwebfdzsh]

You know that how exactly?

[jdjdjdkdksmdnd]

because they were much less fat than us, had almost none of the diseases we have that are all really metabolic dysfunction/diabetes at their root, and the general price and availability of food has only been getting better…

[qwebfdzsh]

What does that have to do with ketosis? You can eat a lot of carbs and not be fat...

> had almost none of the diseases we have that are all really metabolic dysfunction/diabetes at their root

True. Unless you were rich. Even heard of gout? But yeah probably somewhat accurate for the whole population. But again, not much to do with ketosis.

I mean is there any evidence even today that someone whose diet is primarily (~80%) grain and other plant products with a lot of carbohydrates can enter ketosis even when practicing "intermittent fasting" while consuming ~2000-3000 calories per day (e.g. the estimate for standard Roman soldier daily rations is 3,000-4,000)? Seems impossible...

[jdjdjdkdksmdnd]

i guess you missed the memo but people do it every day including me. i own a ketone meter.

[qwytw]

You mainly eat a grain based diet. Consume 2000+ calories and manage to "enter" ketosis? That's extremely remarkable...