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by roenxi 905 days ago
> I'd love to be able to separate myself and my team from others by an agreed-upon interface.

Don't doubt it, but that is what the grandparent was going to - you don't want to be held accountable for the success of the overall product, you want a defined contract that you maintain and the value-add of that is someone else's problem.

The dysfunction of a business is made up of individuals doing what makes the most sense for them locally. It isn't unreasonable to want microservices, it just happens that the incentives that make developers like microservices also tend towards systems that lack accountability for achieving system-level outcomes.
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jpk 905 days ago
Isn't this precisely what leadership is for? If you've implemented an architecture that mirrors your org chart, then the interfaces aren't just in software, they exist between managers as well. System-level success depends on the managers and the directors above them to steer the boat in a way that places accountability on the teams and components of the architecture necessary to ship a feature, or whatever.
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onion2k 905 days ago
Isn't this precisely what leadership is for?

If your devs are just implementing whatever system design is coming from your tech leads, and having no opportunity to have an input or their own, you'll find you have very unhappy devs who don't hang around very long. That churn will make it impossible to build a decent system.

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jpk 904 days ago
If your devs are just implementing whatever they want, with no strong design from your tech leads, and leaving no room for input from other teams, you'll find you have very unhappy customers who don't hang around very long... etc.

It's a balance.

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kaashif 905 days ago
> If you've implemented an architecture that mirrors your org chart

In my experience this is almost invariably what happens. I would replace the if with a when.

Wow, you're telling me our three teams want to write three separate services? No way.

And the teams in New York want to use one technology while the teams in San Francisco want to use something else? Say it ain't so!

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