[mrazomor]

> a large part of the modern internet users are mobile-only, and the amount of people who use anything but what Google tells them to (or Apple allows them to) is vanishingly small.

I'm a Chrome user. Both on desktop and mobile because of the built in syncing.

If I were able to switch to Firefox mobile (Android), I would. But the rendering is often broken or awkwardly different on Firefox mobile. I thought this is a thing of the past...

[miah_]

Firefox on android also has syncing, you can open up the 'share' and send pages directly to your various firefox browsers. It will sync passwords etc. I haven't had any rendering issues and have been using FFM-Nightly for years now.

[mort96]

They're not saying "I use Chrome because only Chrome has syncing". They're saying "I use the same browser on mobile and desktop because of syncing, and I can't use Firefox on mobile because it has these bugs, so I end up using Chrome on both mobile and desktop."

[Nexxxeh]

Are you using uBlock Origin in Firefox on Android? If not, then try it.

You'd have to prise it from my cold dead hands. By far the best mobile browsing experience.

Not entirely perfect, there's a bug where I'll occasionally get a grey screen on a tab. Hasn't happened enough for me to do anything about tho.

But still orders of magnitude better than my experience with Chrome on Android.

[kettleballroll]

FYI, I've been using ublock origin with Firefox on android for years and never encountered the bug you're talking about, so it might be rooted in something else. I'm using a pixel 6 ( and a pixel 3 before that), in case that's relevant

[jeroenhd]

I get the occasional hung Firefox browser (browser UI works but none of the tabs render any content, or render a single tab that doesn't work). I'm not sure what's causing it, but based on the behaviour I observed, I don't think it's an addon related bug.

I wish I could reproduce it to file a bug report. These stability bugs are the reason I'm hesitant to recommend Firefox to non-technophiles, especially since the web is unusable without at least an ad blocker. While I still use Firefox, Brave seems to be doing a much better job at blocking ads without slowing down.

[Semaphor]

I exclusively use FF, with Chrome on Android and Desktop only being there for cross browser testing, I never have rendering issues, only issues brought by extensions (mainly uBlock Origin), or FF’s tracking protection, both of which can be disabled.

[tremon]

I'm a Chrome user

As they say, acceptance is the first step to recovery.

[mehdix]

Interestingly one reason I use firefox is because of its builtin synching. My tabs, bookmarks, and passwords are synced. Extensions could also sync their preferences (not sure about data). I also heavily use their "send tab to device" feature, which allows me to send tabs to specific devices to act on them later.

[bee_rider]

The person you quoted seems to have just generated this hypothesis out of nothingness, so it isn’t as if they are on super solid ground in the first place. However, I think it is worth pointing out that we’re all vanishingly small percentages of the population; your existence doesn’t tell us much or contradict them, I guess.

[Larrikin]

Which specific websites?

[mrazomor]

I hit a few in the past. But, I'm failing to find any of them at the moment... Maybe I should give Firefox mobile another try.

It could be that my baseline was the Chrome rendering, so any discrepancy was classified as "it's broken".

[zonkerdonker]

Adblock on a mobile browser is a gamechanger. I wouldn't go back even if a quarter of sites were broken on FF mobile (and they aren't, I've been using it for 2 full years desktop and mobile, and only found a single compatibility issue - a restaurant's take-out ordering page)

[paledot]

Honestly, in this day and age, any discrepancy from Chromium/WebKit is probably broken. But if we're talking about a few pixels' difference here and there, plenty of sites are more broken than that on every browser.

I have encountered a couple of (financial, natch) sites that insist on a Chromium-based browser in order to do vital operations like download statements. Switching browsers for those few exceptions is annoying, but not a deal-breaker (for me).

[Semaphor]

Have you tried a user-agent switcher? I think you can even set them up to always have a specific agent depending on the domain. Chances are, they don’t need chromium, they are just written by (even more than you’d think) incompetent people.

[mrazomor]

Found one! Google.com ... Try googling "vti stock" (or any similar rich ui query) on chrome mobile and Firefox mobile.

[ZeroGravitas]

Works for me. What do you see different?

[mrazomor]

Chrome gives me the graph, and rich stock data. Firefox gives a minimum amount of data (vanilla install, no addons). See:

- https://ibb.co/gJQhTbK

- https://ibb.co/bJZ7JVR

I get the same behavior for the people queries like "Barack Obama". (Android 14, Pixel 4a)

[Larrikin]

Because Google intentionally breaks it on non Chrome browsers so that you get a worse experience.

Install the Google Search Fixer from the Firefox add on store and it looks exactly the same.

[ZeroGravitas]

I see the graph exactly like that in Firefox on Android.

edit: turns out I have the search fixer add-on that is mentioned in a sibling comment installed.

[maccard]

Is it? I use Firefox on android (and desktop) and I have to drop to chrome about once a year for rendering issues.

[fl0id]

ffx also has syncing.

[sjfjsjdjwvwvc]

Hm weird I have the inverse experience with Chrome…