[gavinhoward]

> the important software that's closed but has the important customer, the important customer gets the access when they ask for it.

End users are rarely that important customer, so for end users, there is a difference.

> So in practice, the difference isn't that huge.

Except that with SAMS, you still can share. I said as much. And you can actually get the source if you're not a VIP.

That matters because sometimes, even with FOSS, end users do not get the source if the source is not copyleft enough.

[mpixel]

Ultimately, I think we disagree on the essence of the issue and many consider the 'almost enough' option to be worse than 'enough' which is the crust of this issue.

That said, I respect your opinion -- I've seen your comments on the thread and I see where you are coming from.

[gavinhoward]

Fair enough.