[sokoloff]

> No I don’t have that choice; I have to play fiat wealth accumulation to buy land.

Why can you not barter within the community for the land you need?

If you’d talked about needing to break out of the barter economy to trade for fiat to pay government taxes on income or land, I’d agree that you can’t have a fully closed barter economy, but for the acquisition of land itself, you can barter.

[ngoro7bd]

I have tried. Landholders these days are locked into loans; be it initial mortgage or equity loans. They can’t barter land away, as the banks (with government backing) demand fiat capital.

Most cannot afford to own anything; most rent from a back but semantically claim ownership. The rich propagate hallucination their portfolio of assets gives them greater leverage via the sycophancy of their large flock… er… shareholders.

Take the metaphor, analogy, poetry out of the Bible and you’re left with rudimentary framework that became capitalism. A few shekels and goats for a daughter.

Makes sense. In the US sense of obligation, participation in religious activities only began to decline in the early 2000s.

Brainwave sync with prior generations, true believers, was embedded implicitly.

That signal is being attenuated by generational churn.

[sokoloff]

That seems likely that you didn’t offer enough in barter for them to satisfy their obligations to others, in other words not that “bartering for land can’t work” but rather “bartering for land doesn’t work if the goods offered for land is too low”.