[pxeboot]

Apple must license tens of thousands of patents for their products. What is so special about not paying for these? Is this dispute even about the patents at this point or just some kind of feud with Masimo?

[esskay]

Could be a case of Masimo not bending to Apple's will and offering a low price given Apple also poached a bunch of their top staff.

[DannyBee]

According to the CEO of Masimo, Apple hasn't even contacted them at all, and he would be willing to settle:

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/masimo...

[layer8]

Apple disagrees that they violated any of Masimo’s patents (and most of them were indeed dismissed in court so far). If they can win that legal battle, that will be the better outcome for Apple long-term. So that’s the route they’re going.

Masimo’s CEO claimed that they offered settling but that Apple didn’t even respond to that offer.

[op00to]

"I'm innocent. I did not shoot anyone. So far, the courts have found that I have shot no one that you said I shot."

"The prosecutor offered you a plea deal, and you didn't entertain it at all. You must be guilty."

[DannyBee]

"Apple disagrees that they violated any of Masimo’s patents (and most of them were indeed dismissed in court so far). If they can win that legal battle, that will be the better outcome for Apple long-term. So that’s the route they’re going."

It may surprise you to learn that it's totally common to have patent settlement agreements where you retain your right to appeal, and only owe money if the appeal fails.

So they can in fact likely both get things back on the shelves, and still appeal.