[drowsspa]

"Factually wrong" oh yeah, I'm being factual and logical and those others are being ideological and political.

[Georgelemental]

Yes, this is in fact one of the few cases where a philosopical question has clear-cut, empirically verifiable right and wrong answers.

(Merry Christmas btw)

[drowsspa]

Of course, like I said, libertarianism is empirically verifiably right. Got it.

[Georgelemental]

I don't consider myself a libertarian. "Food and shelter are limited resources" is empirically verifiable.

[drowsspa]

That is a fact. Where your ideology enters the argument is when you say that implies they're not human rights.