[gumballindie]

The more we learn about this person the more we understand how dubious he is. I am not entirely sure what the end game is for those protecting and promoting him. He’s clearly not steve jobs. Behaves and talks more like a cheap imitation.

[jstummbillig]

Is the idea that Steve Jobs never strong armed anyone?

[gumballindie]

The idea is that steve jobs built something. And those promoting altman try to somehow make him look like steve. But altman built nothing, has no plan whatsoever, and is an impostor. I think even he knows it, which explains his attempts at making something stick - be it dodgy crypto, corrupt business deals, an ai that fails to live to its hype, and so on.

[queuebert]

No, but he sure stinky feeted quite a few.

[dclowd9901]

I’m with you. I think the point here is that he _is_ like Steve Jobs, and everything that goes with that comparison.

[nvy]

Steve Jobs was a massive piece of shit; not a good figure to worship.

[chongli]

Steve Jobs was a human being. No human should be worshipped.

Like all human beings, he wasn't a one-dimensional character from a crappy sitcom. He had negative and positive traits. Whatever one feels about him personally, it is absolutely a mistake to dismiss him. What he achieved -- multiple times -- puts him in extremely rarified air in the business world.

[gosub100]

if apple had gone bankrupt he'd have started his own company. his best accomplishment was with UI and actually giving a fuck about the end user. thats not brilliant or genius. Actually having empathy for the user was such a novel concept in computing that it drove him to the top, even though he lacked empathy for anyone around him. His other notable accomplishments were negotiating with the record companies to license iTunes music. I would love to have been a fly on the wall for those conversations. Without a critical mass of licensing, iPod would have never happened. his glory for iPhone is nonsense, it would have happened within a year or 2 anyway as electronics matured.

[CPLX]

His values are completely aligned with the ruling class.

Billionaires need on the ground types like him to actually do stuff.

It’s hard to find people who are young and ambitious and effective, and yet fundamentally and ruthlessly aligned with corporate hegemony.

And I suspect he must be spectacularly good at flattery.

[alternative_a]

> [elite’s HR issues]

We share this thought.

My pet theory regarding the recruitment efforts of this class: two broad fronts, one to drive the herd and the other to pick candidates.

The first front permeates our head space in form of content in the full spectrum of the bandwidth of this class: entertainment, news, organizations. Here the message is insistently that “Only suckers play straight”, “crime pays”, “winners and losers”. This is a consistent message.

The second front is more selective and here I am speculating (unlike the former which one gets to experience first hand, whether one likes it or not.) Here I suspect a more ‘direct’ sales pitch is used, and likely references the former.

Imagine you are a bright young thing from ‘not money’ raised in that “cultural” environment just mentioned. Now you open your favorite “journal of record”. You read barely disguised lies, note how these lies lead designated demographics by the NOSE with them not even aware of this fact, and finally your mentor has a conversation with you:

“Do you really think that the general population, these same people we were discussing being led by the nose with lies, are actually capable of self-governance and should have a say in “important” matters?”

[fvbcds]

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