[wiseowise]

> and to top it off bundler, and Ruby version manager again were just largely copied over to Python as pip and venv.

Python’s venv is so much better than whatever Ruby has.

[yxhuvud]

Venv tries to do too much and manages to not be great at anything, which is a direct contributing factor to Python being worst in class by a wide margin when it comes to packaging and dev environments.

[ric2b]

I have the exact opposite experience, bundler + rbenv are so much nicer to use than pip and venv. rbenv automatically loads the correct ruby version when I enter a project directory and bundler is just so much more capable and intuitive than pip.