[kelnos]

> Well yes, but what if they support the initial terror attacks?

"What if" is the key phrase there. Can you jump into the minds of every Palestinian and know their likes, dislikes, motivations, level of support for Hamas? No, of course not; none of us can.

> Massacring dance festival attendants and people in their homes is not self defence, it is terrorism.

Absolutely agreed. But I'm not convinced what Israel is doing in Gaza is self defense either. There's certainly a self defense component to it, but cutting off electricity, water, and communications, and indiscriminate killing of non-combatants... well, none of that is self defense; those are war crimes.

Israel certainly has the moral right to defend itself against threats (existential or otherwise), but the response needs to be proportionate. I don't believe what they're doing is proportionate.