[benknight87]

As another Asia-based software dev (Vietnam), this was an interesting read. I am currently going the spousal visa route but this carries its own advantages and disadvantages. I've always loved Japan but generally unsure of living there due to high cost of living, aging population, and strict immigration laws. As least in the case of the latter, it's good to know a path exists!

[jasonjei]

Actually Japan is significantly lower cost to live than to live in SF. The average salary of a college grad that’s 30 years old is roughly $30K. Their prices are roughly the same because wages are the same, and they can’t afford to increase prices without causing huge systemic problems. As long as you’re not eating kaiseki or expensive sushi, Japan is absurdly cheap from USD standpoint, especially with recent exchange rates. 1 bedroom apartment might only cost you $600/month in more remote parts of Tokyo. A very filling yakitori meal might only be 1000 yen ($7-8) per person.

[aetherson]

However, the cost of living in Japan is certainly higher than the cost of living in Vietnam, where your parent poster is apparently residing.

[bcherny]

I moved from SF to Japan, can confirm. YMMV — like any other country, cost of living depends on what city and neighborhood you’re in, lifestyle, etc.

[askonomm]

I mean, 99% of the world is lower cost than SF, with SF being in many of the top 10 lists of most expensive cities to live in.

[fnord77]

not for much longer

[askonomm]

Because SF is coming down in cost or rest of the world is going up? Or Both?

[yellow_lead]

How about healthcare? I've heard this is still quite expensive especially for non-residents.

[throwaway2037]

"non-residents": Did you mean non-citizens? Else, I do not understand the context of this term. Clearly, the OP was talking about living/working in Japan. That would imply residence. Yes, there is national health care. For working age people, it costs about 10-20k yen per month (many factors can change the final cost). Co-pay is 30%.

[rwmj]

> Co-pay is 30%

It's actually better in practice because the state puts maximum prices on all kinds of procedures, and IIRC there is also a maximum annual amount that you can be charged. IOW it's easy to ensure your care costs are bounded.

[throwaway2037]

Great point! First, I didn't know that the national gov't is actively involved in medical pricing. I guess it makes sense when you have national health care. Second, to state the obvious, 30% would be insane co-pay for someone in the United States. However, in Japan, it is quite reasonable. Elderly only pay 10%, and most children pay nothing.

[peterlada]

Laugh cries inconsolably in American...

[bcherny]

I’ve never had to pay more than a fixed copay. (I use public insurance)

[rwmj]

The exchange rate (if you're buying Yen) is pretty good at the moment too.

[maeil]

>strict immigration laws

This is a bit of a misconception, at least by East-Asian standards: much easier than China, (surprisingly) easier than South Korea, and similar (maybe slightly stricter) to Taiwan.