[gyomu]

I did that with a few interns/junior people and they turned out to be disappointing rather than predictably satisfying.

I still agree with you, because I want to believe it pays off in the long run. But it definitely comes at a real short term cost.

[coffeecat]

Therein lies the problem. Most people are apathetic and incompetent. Winning rat race points requires some amount of competence and "oomph", so rat race points will always correlate positively with applicant quality. Most rat-race-losers, unfortunately, aren't Socrates.

[jamilton]

I wonder what other tests of being non-apathetic and at least somewhat competent would work as well or better than the typical rat race.

[hellisothers]

Anything that signals grit

[musicale]

Tide may be overrated, over-promoted, and overpriced, but people who buy it know that it is going to get their clothes clean.

[bradleyjg]

I expect, and have a few data points to suggest, that the average is lower but the variance is higher.

More importantly you are helping to fight an anti-human machine that sacrifices endless years of (young! healthy!) life to pointless grinding.