[Jldevictoria]

Its a weird company:

* They got their LTE modem into the iPhone 11 but just couldn't compete. * ARC GPUs would have been competitve if they had be launched a year or two sooner and its stagnancy is widley due to lack of funding since the market was dead during launch and we were in a massive market pullback where they were ultra hesitatnt to spend ANY money. (massive layoffs too) * Optane was a great product and had a good roadmap, but they were burning cash waiting for adoption and their customers had decoupled their memory and storage from the physical layer to mitigate limitations of NAND ssd so much that they didn't see the price as worth it, despite the obvious latency and endurance benefits that it had over even SLC NAND drives.

Sometimes they just miss the market for otherwise good products.

[jerrysievert]

> They got their LTE modem into the iPhone 11 but just couldn't compete

it wasn't "just couldn't compete", those modems were horrible. the speed was lower than the Qualcomm that managed to be shipped in some of the iphones (from 8-11), and the connections were extremely flaky. I had a 9 with an intel modem, and it was abysmal compared to the previous iPhones I had owned.

that apple went back to Qualcomm, bought the intel division, and still is shipping Qualcomm modems says a lot -- it's still just not there.

[RF_Savage]

Intel modems were measurable worse. One telecoms blog used a proper testset to measure 10dB worse sensitivity across the board.

And this was even before being slower even with strong signals.

So slower and noticably worse range. Modems are hard and take a long time to have small things ironed out here and there. Small things add up.

[saati]

The Arc is very competitive at the price points it's available.