[ajkjk]

I think most people would be opposed to that stuff in principle, but don't have a crystallized model of it that allows them to be opposed in practice; it's mostly by working in tech and/or spending a lot of time online that you become able to discern those designs as an intentionally manipulative strategy instead of simply bad design.

Like, my relatives will complain about e.g. things being hard to quit and literally not realize it was designed for that. It's really weird.