[doctorpangloss]

I don’t know. A lot of people moved to suburbs for a very high quality of life per dollar using cars. Then they gained even more when work from home grew. The organic vegetables I’m e-biking around SF were trucked into Rainbow, not scootered. Trucks moved the berry pickers onto the fields. Cars and trucks shlep a lot of people and stuff and make a lot of very cheap land and a lot of very cheap labor accessible to many, many people. There wasn’t some huge surplus created by scooters the way there was with cars, for all their faults.

[Tarrosion]

I agree that cars and trucks are appropriate for a variety of trips and cargo-hauling use cases that scooters are not appropriate for. But I confess I'm missing the implication - what does this imply about the claim that micromobility is held to a standard we don't typically hold other transportation modes to, in part because we have a default cars-first perspective?