[zaps]

So like is “sophisticated threats” a passive-aggressive way of saying “Beeper”?

[dagmx]

This was announced last year, way before any of Beeper’s shenanigans.

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/12/07/new-imessage-apple-id-s...

[jojobas]

Beeper was released at least two years prior to that.

[dagmx]

And that’s not what I’m referring to by their shenanigans.

Specifically I’m talking about their beeper mini spoofing of Apple devices, not the other beeper setup that forwarded content to/from an actual Mac.

[n2d4]

I don't think this is related. This is just public key verification, the kind that other E2E messaging apps already had. I don't know about the specifics but as I understand, Beeper Mini could implement this too if they want to.

[lxgr]

Theoretically the two are orthogonal. There's no reason why Beeper wouldn't be able to implement contact key verification; there's no hardware attestation component to it, as far as I can tell.

Practically, the added complexity of having to integrate with iCloud Keychain certainly won't help.