| VASAviation released a very long video afterwards with the whole conversation (LH talking to NorCal APP) and the written document from a controller explaining why LH was put on a holding pattern. > What isn't reasonable is to hold Lufthansa for 30 minutes without any information or contact, then tack on another 10 minutes two more times. Maybe because they had no available slots so nothing new to share with LH? > And what especially isn't reasonable is to force them to divert to Oakland and say things like "this conversation is over" because your ego is bruised. Well, LH threatened the controller with declaring a fuel emergency that would fuck up their sequence. I think the controller responded in kind. > The NorCal controller was way out of line and with what passes for SOP in the US we're gonna have our own Tenerife disaster soon enough. Somehow I don't think controllers care very much for company policies that they see as impeding their operations. It's not the first controller to do this to a plane if the captain objects to the instructions received from ATC in a busy airspace. Speaking of:
> On top of all that, PAL104 had received ILS just moments before without even asking for it (because it was in their flight plan). Do you have PAL104 FP from that night? Because the longer video from VASAviation shows that PAL104 got an ILS clearance because there was a gap in traffic long enough to accommodate them. |