[ejb999]

yea, no doubt if you are down on your luck someone handing you $750/month would improve your circumstances in the short run - but it sounds like perhaps you made changes in your life, such that you are no longer homeless - great - but would you, or anyone else not feeling the desperation of being hungry or unsheltered be more, or less, likely to try and improve your circumstances if you were getting a cash handout every month so the adverse affects weren't so bad?

Its a serious question - isn't there some benefit to society when people feel the pain of bad circumstances or decisions and then feel motivated to do something about it?

I am of the opinion that it does.

[advael]

Up to and including homelessness? Objectively no. Homelessness significantly prevents both productive economic activity and maintaining other basic necessities, or even seeking help from others. Weighed against what appears to be a purely philosophically-derived assumption that negative reward signals are not only necessary to motivate useful action but have no diminishing returns, I think the proposition that a home makes a lot of the activities one needs to do to "get ahead" in life more physically feasible has a lot more evidence in its favor

[pests]

> a home makes a lot of the activities one needs to do to "get ahead" in life more physically feasible

100%

Basic hygiene, a place to store your belongings and clothes, an area to prepare yourself and look good for the day. A location to use a computer or do paperwork or other managerial tasks. The ability to store food and participate in bulk purchases for savings. A place to rest and relax and consume media or enjoy a hobby. A solid place to sleep, every night, in your perferred area and with your perferred pillows and bedding. A place to store a vehicle. A place to bring friends and family and entertain. Cooking the food you want and eating at the schedule that works best for you. A place to organize your external life and showcase your own personality. A familiar place to develop habits and routine.

I don't see how there is any question. People who are homeless not only lack all of these and more, but some suffer additional stress, anxiety, and embarassment about acquiring these basic things every day.