[stephenr]

> I'm taken aback by what you seem to suggest though; Would you seriously claim that most new projects ARE using PHP?

No. I didn't say that, and we need to clarify what you meant originally to make sense here.

When you say "most people wouldn't start a project in php", there are two ways to interpret "most" in that sentence: "the majority of" (ie 50%+) or "nearly all of" (ie a much higher percentage). Both are accepted definitions for "most".

I assumed you meant the latter: ie "nearly everyone would not start a project in php", which is what I disagree with, because the former makes little sense in context.

If you did in fact mean "a majority of people would not start a project in php" then of course I agree because that sentence can be substituted to mention any programming language in existence and still be true, because none are ever so dominant over all others in terms of popularity, that more than half of all new projects are written in said language.

[dijit]

it's a little bit hair splitty, but I see what you might be trying to get at.

What I tried to convey is that PHP is not enjoying the development heyday it once had, and the numbers of people choosing PHP for a new project today (even among people who learned development with PHP) is decreasing. It's not popular.

let's try to leave it as: "I believe PHP to be in decline for new projects as a share of total new projects divided by the total number of developers who are starting new projects".