[bambax]

Does anyone remember Google Video? It was a horrible experience. The upload process was a pain, and I think some approval was needed at some point, or you had to be sponsored by someone already on the service.

Then Google bought Youtube.

In the AI space it's unclear what/who they could buy -- OpenAI being obviously out of reach -- but it's possible they could find a good match.

[ddol]

> In the AI space it's unclear what/who they could buy

They bought the most promising AI startup in the world for $650m and failed to integrate it or make use of it until ChatGPT was released.

That was DeepMind, nine years ago.

[ksjskskskkk]

everyone in this thread agrees google problem is all management and product and that buying a company is just a palliative way of acquihiring a still ungoogled management team. which don't last long, obviously.

you're all just telling each other exactly this in hundreds of different ways.

[brap]

>In the AI space it's unclear what/who they could buy

I think Google invested like $2B+ in Anthropic

[infecto]

Anthropic feels very much like google though. It took me 6 months to get access, once I finally did it was only a testing type account that then requires me to talk to sales before they take my credit card.

On the other hand OpenAI has been quick to take money. Mistral too, got an account immediately and able to add billing details and they don’t even have a usage page so I have no idea how much I have burned through.

[fatherzine]

mistral

[ithkuil]

I just tried their API mistral-medium model for some coding prompts that failed miserably on anything other than gpt-4 and it handled them well. Just anecdotal, didn't so any proper benchmarking.

IIUC their open Mixtral 8x7 maps to the mistral-small model (which while impressive is still behind gpt-4).

I guess they want to keep their best model behind the API for now.

Anyway, I second that Mistral does stand a good chance to compete with openai