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by llamaInSouth 920 days ago
> The dial and 5 buttons on the center console behind the shifter is wonderful

One of my favorite feature on Mazdas... never seen anything like it before

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Mazda copied BMW's iDrive. iDrive was derided when it was introduced in 2001 [1], but it has turned out to be a good compromise.

Unfortunately BMW moved to eliminating a lot of hardware buttons in the latest version of the iDrive with a giant curved screen. They still have dial and buttons on the center console, plus few additional buttons under the main screen. But they have removed one of another great features - eight programmable buttons in the center. These are great and you can assign any function from the touch screen to them.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_iDrive

Thought it was called Commander or was that Mercedes?
I’m not sure, but what’s being described sounds a lot like BMWs iDrive which I love and has been around for a while(15+ years).
That's funny because as I recall the BMW iDrive was widely derided when it came out. I have one on my old BMW and I like it, never understood the objections.
Here's an NYT article at the time, from https://web.archive.org/web/20150527202158/https://www.nytim... :

> Car enthusiasts were not smitten with iDrive; many found that the system had the opposite of its intended effect, requiring more, not less, visual attention. Automobile Week wrote that iDrive ''turned the 'experience' of driving the car into a computerized affair.'' And even experts who sympathize with the impulse behind iDrive note its shortcomings. ''I spent an hour experimenting in a simulator, and I got lost in the menus,'' says Don Norman, the author of ''The Design of Everyday Things.'' BMW countered by including a cheat sheet that can be affixed to the steering wheel for befuddled parking valets. Eventually, some initially skeptical reviewers have conceded that once accustomed to it, they find the iDrive indispensable; however, that acclimation has taken as long as three months.

Norman wrote more about it at https://jnd.org/design-as-communication/ .

> By logic, the iDrive was a superior device. Alas, people function through stories, not logic. Moreover, people are spatial, we remember where things are in space, whereas the iDrive destroyed spatiality. And finally, the stories we remember and the conceptual models we prefer have to do with how a particular device functions: heating and cooling the automobile, changing the station of the radio, checking what distance remains for our trip. Each activity requires a separate story, separate control, and a separate location for operation. Alas, the iDrive collapsed everything into one location.

Basically, I can access it without looking while keeping my arm on the arm rest
Audi cars used to have a system like this (dial based), but don't anymore.
Straight up the best method of interacting with the infotainment system I've ever used. It was a breeze.
I rented one with the last year of that system, and they'd integrated it with Android Auto, and I was surprised with how well it worked. Someone at Google was clearly thinking about this modality.

However I doubt Google has done the work in the interim to keep the UX in Android Auto working well with dial controls. Esp if only Mazda is doing this.

It’s very similar to BMW’s iDrive system. I believe Mazda’s UX, in several areas, was inspired by several car manufacturers.
Most other tier 1 manufacturers have had this - BMW, Merc, Audi, Lexus...