[dfgfek]

The fact that things are better in Europe than in Russia or China does not mean that we can't show concern for the changes that are being imposed in Europe.

I don't know why people keep bringing up Russia or China in every one of these conversations. It's nothing but a strawman fallacy.

[ethanbond]

Because GP said this:

> They are no better than the Russian and Chinese counterparts after all

Correct, we should be protective of our freedoms and indeed the EU (IMO) is a bit lacking in its speech protections, but no one except China and Russia are served by this meme that US/EU are just as bad as China and Russia.

[raxxorraxor]

Because without Russia and China to point a finger at, the arguments are just bad.