[viraptor]

Consent of the victim. I don't care if someone doesn't consent to getting their crimes exposed. But if you started filming body damage the drug did to random people without asking them for consent, that would be a really shitty thing, even if informative in some way.

> We should treat the problem as a statistical one without a personal human element?

No, we shouldn't concentrate on specific people. This shouldn't be poverty porn. "There's an issue, here's an affected person who agreed to talk to us about it, here's more about the issue" - great personal element! "Look at this affected person, and this one, and this one, and this one, the end" - no, that's not reporting about the issue itself.

[next_xibalba]

Doing drugs in public is a crime in most places. So the victims are, in fact, all of us (including the TikTokers doing the filming).

[lokar]

When I see chronic drug users suffering in public I don’t feel victimized, I feel empathy.

[chucksta]

What about all the non-addicted people trying to live their lives in those communities? What do you feel for them?

[lokar]

Also empathy. The situation is a societal problem, the individuals are not really at fault.

[GauntletWizard]

What you feel is disgust; you just have so little empathy that you can't tell the difference.

[AlexandrB]

> In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread.

[fuzzybear3965]

As far as I can tell, the concern is regarding drug users. As an ex-user and as an ex-homeless person drug use is a choice. Every recovered addict will tell you the same thing. I'd conjecture there's as much victimization in the drug game as there is in the casino game. I don't care if someone is filmed pulling slots or buying lottery tickets in public. If someone's in a public space airing self-inflicted diseases and are filmed in an impaired state then being documented is payment for the price of poor decisions. There's no expectation of privacy in public.

Absolutely we should focus on individuals. This isn't pornography (for pleasure). It's a crisis. And, just like Palestine or Ukraine or Darfur, it should be documented and individual's experiences should be broadcasted. Hiding the problem isn't going to fix anything. Treating it like a class thing isn't going to fix anything - this issue crosses race and class. It's a human problem and requires human-human interactions.

[viraptor]

> As an ex-user and as an ex-homeless person drug use is a choice.

Starting the drug use - sure. But do you think the same of people who are already physically addicted continuing use? And does it matter for the problem itself?

> Absolutely we should focus on individuals.

How much can you achieve here by focusing on every single affected person individually -vs- knowing this is a city wide issue and actually trying to hit the distributors since they seem to be so obvious, people can just switch the corner they go to? (according to the article)

[fuzzybear3965]

> Starting the drug use - sure. But do you think the same of people who are already physically addicted continuing use? And does it matter for the problem itself?

Yes, I think if you're neck deep in a fentanyl and tranq addiction you're making a choice to continue using. That's evidenced by those who chose to stop using. And, yes, assigning responsibility correctly is important.

Note that drug treatment programs almost always require patients to accept responsibility for their outcomes. That's not just empty posturing. That's crucial to solving the problem.

> How much can you achieve...

You'll accomplish much more positive change by focusing on individuals suffering from drug use (that includes non-users). If cracking down on distribution did anything to solve addiction then we still be living in Prohibition and drugs wouldn't be more popular, dangerous, and addictive than ever. Cracking down on distribution only increases inequality measures (look at Mexico today and also the results of applying the "zero tolerance" policy to crack cocaine distributors in the 80s - the African American community is still reeling from heavy-handed administration and enforcement) and accelerates the arms race.