[naijaboiler]

That’s not product management. That’s an under-qualified person misunderstanding their role. Product management is mostly a people job, understanding internal stakeholders, understanding customer, understanding the market, understanding the solution options, formulating and understanding strategy for the product, coordinating product marketing and documentation for the product.

If someone can do all that well, there’s simply no time to micro manage jira tickets

[airocker]

Even if they have the time, my rule is that nobody who does not understand the complexity of the solution (not the problem or the what) should be allowed anything more than watch rights in jira and standups. I would love to hear one non coding product manager who does not run jira in their org of more than 100 people.

The problem is that it is hard to be a product manger and own those tough customer metrics. It is easy to do jira and get credited for engineering work.