[GiorgioG]

Most non-technical PMs I’ve worked with have been ineffective because they don’t understand or think in terms of systems, they only think in “screens” and “buttons”. Put me in the “get rid of product managers altogether” camp.

[DanielHB]

Being able to show a relational database schema to a manager and ask: "is this the data we need in the manner we need" is invaluable