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by RomanPushkin 916 days ago
In 2014, I relocated to the Bay Area with my spouse and one-year-old child, armed only with $9k USD and 2 bags of belongings for the whole family. I had secured a job, but unexpectedly, the company ran out of funds within six months.

The first week after my termination, I was just lost in space and time, freaking out. Over the next two weeks, I applied to every possible software engineering job, sending at least a thousand emails. I spent all days long on the phone, switching ears when one became sore from holding the phone.

It took me only two weeks to find a new gig. In the end, I allowed myself a week to decompress and then joined the new company, four weeks after losing my previous position. The stress was intense. My bank account hovered between $3k-$6k, and the stakes were high. If I didn't secure a job soon, my family and I faced the real possibility of going under the bridge.

My advice to those in similar situations is this: don't let despair dominate your thoughts. Instead, think about your family, or imagine you have a child, or will have in the future, and now it's your time to prove you can do it.

I believe this mindset is crucial. IMO, intensive preparation for leetcode is less important in desperate times. It's better to continuously apply to jobs. Leetcode is more suitable when you're already employed and can afford to spend time on it, ideally over a span of six months to a year, to thoroughly tackle those 300 popular questions.

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2014 was basically peak ZIRP and startup era. I don’t think this could be replicated today. I know way too many people from Google/Meta layoffs who are still looking despite willing to take pay cuts, just to keep the lights on.
I agree, the market is indeed challenging at the moment. Thankfully, I'm in a more stable position now. Despite not actively seeking out opportunities, I still received 4 remote job offers at the beginning of 2023 (or was it late 2022, I forget).

These offers weren't particularly thrilling, and I even left one of the jobs after a month. Regarding Meta, they are actively hiring. I had an offer from them in January 2022, which I turned down.

Then, in September 2023, they reached out again, but this time with an on-site requirement. Being based in the SFBA, I have a strong preference for remote work and am unlikely to accept an on-site role, though it's reassuring to know it's an option if remote opportunities dry up.

As for the folks you mentioned who are struggling to find work, my first question would be about the intensity of their job search. If they've sent fewer than 1,000 applications in a month or so, I would question whether their efforts are truly exhaustive. Job search in today's market demands a high volume of applications and persistence.

From the other side, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't produce any results, but would like to hear more details, since IMO there is a need for software engineers, since I know for sure companies are hiring.

>Being based in the SFBA, I have a strong preference for remote work

I would assume the opposite since meta is also based in sfba. If you were based in New Mexico instead this would make sense.

Everyone, literally every person I know laid off at Google and Meta were subsequently rehired by the same company. It's strange.
Hired back as contractors? Hired back at < 80% of their previous total comp?
Exactly. 2014 was also when rent in SF peaked.
Funny, when I’ve been laid off, I’ve been relieved that there’s no kid depending on me for food and health insurance and no spouse to divorce me. I think I’d have a breakdown if that were the case, but I guess we’re all different.
There are lots of government programs for kids if you don't work. Medicaid and SNAP for example.
I live with marginal disability in a state with 5 million uninsured people; I'm not taking any chances that depend on social safety nets.
Pressure and responsibility tend to motivate people.
The number of fatherless children suggests that that is not exactly a hard and fast rule.

Given enough pressure, anything will burst; I had a colleague kill himself after being unable to find good work, leaving a wife and daughter. Some of us just aren’t cut out for all that.