[godzillabrennus]

People use MongoDB because it’s easy to get started. It does “db stuff” and “authentication”. I’ve given up trying to fight the trend. I just recognize immediately when it is used early on that the devs are still operating with training wheels on.

[winrid]

Sometimes this is the case but not always... It's nice to just work with objects in some languages... for some projects. That's engineering - picking trade offs :)

[cpursley]

Except you can have objects in Postgres via jsonb; there's no trade off and you're both future and vendor proofed.

[winrid]

Yeah, there is. PG has its own warts that Mongo does not have. Also the JSONB query language sucks. See appending an array in PG [0] vs Mongo [1]. Also PG does not provide a way to atomically append to the array, you have to lock the row via SELECT ... FOR UPDATE. Mongo's $push, $set, etc, are atomic.

[0] https://pastebin.com/v2MiV8PE

[1] https://pastebin.com/RmLuGzAY

[cpursley]

Okay, so use a server side language to do it.

[winrid]

that only solves half the problems I mentioned... :)