[Eisenstein]

Let's draw another circle: things you make when 'financial obligations' are not a concern. Where does that intersect? Why aren't we drawing it? How much science was done by 'gentlemen scientists' who never worried about money? How much more would we know if that one person who could have figured out electromagnetism in 1400 didn't have to plow fields all day?

[WalterBright]

There are an awful lot of professions in the world. Surely people can find one that suits them. Life is what you make of it.

My personal dream was to become a swimsuit model, but it just wasn't working out, so I switched to software.

[Eisenstein]

You can't think of any other things besides genetics and self-determination that allowed you to be where you are now?

[WalterBright]

Opportunity presents itself to you and me every day. You can choose.

[yterdy]

You're conflating individual decisions with social structures that determine opportunity systemically.

[WalterBright]

The US has all the opportunity able-bodied adults need.

[yterdy]

Incorrect.