[halfjoking]

I believe modern medicine is fraudulent.

So I didn’t just not get the Covid vaccine, but I canceled my health insurance during Covid. I will never go back to paying for insurance or even going to a doctor in the US unless there is an overwhelming consensus acknowledging the harms of this study:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/ [1]

This system ends only when enough people refuse it. I know I won’t ever give this healthcare system a cent or an ounce of recognition they are an “authority” on anything. I’ll fly to f-ing Cuba for surgery if I have to… I’d rather die than go to an American hospital. After doctors went along promoting such an unsafe “vaccine” and have continued to ignore the overwhelming evidence of harm, they deserve absolutely nothing.

[1] Since it’s important I’m going to quote what Dr. Aseem Malhotra says about this reanalysis of Pfizer and Moderna studies…

"In my whole career, looking at all of the drugs and knowing about many different prescribed medications, I've never seen something that when you look at the data has such poor effectiveness and unprecedented harms. In the summer of last year, in the journal Vaccine, the highest-impact medical journal for vaccines, they published a reanalysis of Pfizer and Moderna's original double-blinded randomized controlled trial.

This is the highest quality of scientific evidence. Joseph Fraiman is an ER doctor and clinical data scientist from Louisiana. Associate editor of the BMJ, Dr. Peter Doshi. Dr. Robert Kaplan from Stanford. Some real eminence of integrity published this reanalysis, and what they found was this. In the trials that led to the approval of regulators worldwide, you were more likely to suffer a severe adverse event from taking the vaccine, hospitalization, disability, or life-changing event than you were to be hospitalized with COVID.

This mRNA vaccine should likely have never been approved for a single human in the first place, and that rate of serious adverse events is at least 1 in 800... 1 in 800 is a very, very high figure. We've pulled other vaccines for much less. The 1976 Swine Flu vaccine was pulled because it was found to cause a debilitating neurological condition called Guillan-Barre syndrome in about 1 in 100,000 people. The Rotavirus vaccine was suspended in 1999 because it was found to cause a form of bowel obstruction in kids in 1 of 10,000. This is at least 1 in 800. It's a no-brainer. So the question is, why have we not paused it?"

[beej71]

> This system ends only when enough people refuse it.

More likely it ends when enough people vote in politicians that regulate it.

Living without insurance in the US is great if you have no assets or if you're fantastically wealthy and can afford million dollar healthcare bills.

If you don't fit into one of those groups, get insurance.

Edit: I do absolutely agree that this system is broken at a fundamental level.

[effingwewt]

Politicians listen to their constituents exactly never [1]

[1] https://news.stanford.edu/2018/02/26/americans-dont-think-ea...

[glimshe]

To all other people on HN: don't follow this person's advice if you live in the US. They are likely relatively healthy and has never experienced the crushing financial burden of long term, or serious health issues. The financial risk of living with insurance is high enough as it is, but living without insurance is madness if you have any sort of asset that can be taken away by creditors - assuming, obviously, that you can afford insurance (which most people, even if not as many as we'd want, can through work or Obamacare).

FYI, my family had a "bad luck" year with 2 surgeries that added up to over 130K this year alone, but insurance covered it all (after deductible). We are in good health now.

[atmavatar]

Tragically, even having good insurance isn't a perfect guard against crushing medical debt due to the whole in-network vs. out-of-network bullshit involved.

If you have to go through a procedure of any complexity in a hospital, you may discover after the fact one or more of the doctors that were brought in were out-of-network despite the hospital being in-network, and suddenly, you're stuck with a giant bill insurance won't cover.

There's a reason some people have secondary, tertiary, and even quaternary insurance nowadays to cover things each previous providers don't.

We truly need to burn down the current system and reset to something sane.

[floor2]

Hurray I get to spread some good news today. The issue you're describing was fixed by the 2022 "No Surprises Act". See this for details: https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/fact-sheets/no-surprises-unders...

[stvltvs]

Yep, this year would have buried my family in medical debt, or buried one of us, without health insurance. Insurance sucks, but we USians haven't created a better alternative yet.