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by aneeqdhk 923 days ago
I'm interested in knowing more about both sides. OP has given a bunch of links in the article (almost in every sentence). Could you point out which assertions of OP are biased?
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The entire article seems quite biased. Using footnotes after every sentence doesn't necessarily indicate a well-researched piece. I won't delve into recent events due to the challenges posed by the fog of war effect. A clearer example of Paul's bias is his choice of quotes regarding past events.

In reference [19], discussing the April 1948 Deir Yassin massacre, Paul presents the following quote:

"Women and children were stripped, lined up, photographed, and then slaughtered by automatic firing and survivors have told of even more incredible bestialities. Those who were taken prisoners were treated with degrading brutality."

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-211346/

This quote originates from a UN report just 11 days after the event, posing two critical issues: firstly, insufficient time for a thorough investigation; secondly, an erroneous casualty count of 250, later revised through subsequent investigations to a total of 107, inclusive of non-civilian casualties.

Furthermore, there's a significant omission. The Deir Yassin events didn't occur in isolation; they were part of a broader context — a battle during the Arab-Jewish civil war, where Jewish militias aimed to break the blockade of Jerusalem enforced by Arab militias.

The Deir Yassin incident has undergone extensive scrutiny, exemplified in Eliezer Tauber's book.

https://www.amazon.com/Massacre-That-Never-Was/dp/1592645437

> This quote originates from a UN report just 11 days after the event, posing two critical issues: firstly, insufficient time for a thorough investigation

There is no reason to not trust first-hand testimonies (see also: believe all women). Of course, investigations did happen, which are a matter of public record, but the circumstances were such that it is hard to prove one way or the other definitively. So, the denials will happen regardless.

> The Deir Yassin events didn't occur in isolation; they were part of a broader context

It is almost like you're defending 7 Oct.

  Israeli historian Benny Morris said the militias "ransacked unscrupulously, stole money and jewels from the survivors and burned the bodies. Even dismemberment and rape occurred."
Btw, the perpetrators of the massacre (Lehi & Irgun) you seem eager to defend were abhorred as fascists by the very people they were sworn to protect. Even those who took part in the massacre, like Amos Kenan, couldn't come to terms with it: https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/lover-of-the-coun...
I am defending no one. Grandparent comment was asking for OP assertions that I find biased. Deir Yassin quote was a one such assertion. Extremely well researched - books have been written about it - but presented in a very biased manner. Paul cherry-picked the worst description of the events.
> I am defending no one

Careful then with words like "broader context".

> Paul cherry-picked the worst description of the events.

IDF has never declassified its report on the massacre? If anything we don't know whats biased and whats not.

Apparently, Benny Morris (who I quote above) had access once, and doesn't appear to disagree that much with the UN report, despite his pro-Israel bias. I mean, Benny Morris is the kind of guy who thinks ethnic cleansing of Pals would have been moral and just answer to the Question of Palestine.