[MuffinFlavored]

My bigger question is how are any Beeper Mini users getting through (aka how is Beeper Mini's backend getting around the fact that... I thought you needed a valid serial # to an Apple device specific to you to log in + use iMessage)

[dylan604]

at some point Serial Box will have a list of valid/invalid hardware serial numbers. or, someone will crack the code to generate valid codes.

oh wait. i drifted off back to the 90s software cracking days.

[rekoil]

Apple doesn't have predictable serial numbers anymore, they're all just random numbers corresponding to rows in a database. There's no way to generate them.

[dylan604]

It wasn't a serious idea. The fact I mentioned it along side Serial Box should have been a clue. Maybe you're too young to know what Serial Box was, or the 90s cracking culture. Shh, the adults are speaking =)

[rekoil]

No, I remember Serial Box, serials.ws, MegaGames, scene intros, etc. I just have trouble determining tone on the internet sometimes is all.

[MuffinFlavored]

if apple checks an online database for "you authenticated and paired this hardware ID to this apple ID", is that a "Beeper Mini" killer?

[dylan604]

isn't that essentially what they are doing? that's one of the reasons a stolen iDevice is pretty much worthless.

[rezonant]

What about when the hardware is legitimately sold and reset and a new Apple ID starts using it?

[chongli]

You have to de-register the device with Apple when you sell it. Otherwise you retain the ability to remote wipe and brick the device and the buyer has no recourse.

After you de-register it the buyer can register it with Apple under their Apple ID.

[Wingy]

I have Apple devices that are allowed to use iMessage including some that I don't use. If my computer can impersonate one of them to allow me to message from my workstation that's success.

[MuffinFlavored]

> If my computer can impersonate one of them to allow me to message from my workstation that's success.

But Beeper Mini isn't asking users to bring-their-own valid hardware registered Apple hardware ID tied to their Apple ID, they're doing something different/unknown behind the scenes