[99_00]

The bill doesn't say anything about uploading government ID.

It says that it is illegal for a company to to give porn to kids. The company can defend it's self against the charge if they have a "prescribed age-verification method".

[standardUser]

> It says that it is illegal for a company to to give porn to kids.

No it doesn't. It says "makes available sexually explicit material", which means any website or app that allows user-generated content.

[logicchains]

>The company can defend it's self against the charge if they have a "prescribed age-verification method".

And the prescribed age-verification method is going to be government ID.

[djaro]

How else would you verify age?

If I buy alcohol I also need a "government ID"

[kelnos]

There are blind, privacy-preserving ways that this can be done. A third party verifies a government ID and issues an age-verification token. The token is passed to the porn site, which has a way to verify the token without talking to the entity that issued the token.

That way the porn site doesn't know who you are (it just knows "this person is old enough to access this content"), and the age verification entity doesn't know what you used the token to access.

Of course, this scheme is more complicated than building an age verification system that involves uploading a government ID (or asking a third party directly to verify someone's age), so ultimately no one gets any privacy or anonymity.

[99_00]

What do you base that on?

[retrac]

What age verification system exists other than government ID?

The only way we ever verify someone's age for legal purposes, at least here in Canada, is by checking government ID. Birth certificate, driver's permit, photo ID card, health card. They all have your birth date on it. A younger adult may need to show this ID if they look particularly young and want to buy cigarettes or alcohol.

Though relevant to the topic, I would note that the same young adult may need to show ID to buy pornography on DVD or Bluray at a retail store. That's already established and I would think few object to that. It's the security and privacy issues that arise when we start sending this data in a recorded and logged form over the Internet. This remains true whether it's a government ID or a privately issued ID.

[99_00]

>It's the security and privacy issues that arise when we start sending this data in a recorded and logged form over the Internet.

That's for consumers and distributors to figure out. The lack of trust between consumers and distributors is no reason to continue allowing online porn to be exempt from long established and agreed upon controls.

[kelnos]

I think the security and privacy concerns absolutely are a reason to continue allowing this sort of thing to skate by. At least until the security and privacy concerns can be addressed.

[99_00]

Your free to hold that opnion.

[genocidicbunny]

On the basis of what the hell else could you reasonably use to establish someone's age? A copy of their birth certificate?

[ipaddr]

The crypto, gambling current implementation in place at the moment.