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by hammock 917 days ago
>Wear sunscreen.

Melanoma in adults is typically tied back to acute blistering sunburn events that happened before the age of 18 (as you seem to be aware). The most common sites of melanoma are chest and back in men and legs in women, areas that are more often than not covered by clothing and not in need of sunscreen.

Cumulative sun exposure on the other hand causes the other types of skin cancer - not melanoma, which this vaccine is targeting.

The most common chemical sunscreen ingredients cause cancer themselves and are wildly overdue for FDA review and removal (that has been held up for political reasons). For those who wish to wear sunscreen I recommend non-nano zinc mineral sunscreen such as Thinksport. Look for "non-nano" and zinc oxide (not titanium oxide, which is often nano in part and also a carcinogen) on the label.

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> The most common sites of melanoma are chest and back in men and legs in women

> The most common chemical sunscreen ingredients cause cancer themselves

Both of these statements are out-of-date.

Recent studies show two different histological subtypes of melanoma for young adults vs older adults, each following a different common mode of presentation [1]. Melanoma in younger adults tends to present on the long limbs and is thought to have different contributing factors.

Also "common chemical sunscreen ingredients cause cancer" is a common FUD trope. Sunscreen reduces cancer mortality, full stop. Each person's circumstances vary based on their daily habits, geography, and personal/familial history.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8482997/

Re: 'Also "common chemical sunscreen ingredients cause cancer" is a common FUD trope. Sunscreen reduces cancer mortality, full stop. Each person's circumstances vary based on their daily habits, geography, and personal/familial history.'

You didn't actually prove anything with your counter point here, as confident as you are - which is as confident to whom you're responding to.

At this level of ideological-indoctrination, it seems each person would have to actually participate [run and observe them] in the trials to see if certain ingredients cause an increase in rates of cancer.

How else do people indoctrinated into a belief, believing they simply know better - and must be right, than have people repeat clinical trials on animal models [or better]? Genuine question.

> Melanoma in adults is typically tied back to acute blistering sunburn events that happened before the age of 18 (as you seem to be aware)

I'm curious how this was studied. I feel like that's when everyone gets really bad sunburns because this has to be extremely hard to actually confirm. Doesn't everyone get sunburns when they were in this age category? It's when we are young and irresponsible, putting on sunscreen requires persistence on something that doesn't seem important in the short term (and arguably is a newer trend).

I totally believe that sun damage on your skin causes skin cancer but studying your choices in your younger years to later years seems quite difficult to confirm through research. Wouldn't they need to confirm adults that were diligent about putting on sunscreen their entire life, including when they were kids?

Re: "Melanoma in adults is typically tied back to acute blistering sunburn events that happened before the age of 18 ..."

With the practical advice to counter this being gradual increase of sun exposure to allow your body to build a deep layer of protection (tan) - of which sun screen will prevent, and then if you miss any spots and get full blast of sun for hours all of a sudden then those will be points of vulnerability.

Pharmaceutical industrial complex: create-advertise the problem, sell the solution(s) = profit!!

Note that your quote from GP only relates to melanoma. They also said "Cumulative sun exposure on the other hand causes the other types of skin cancer."

Its there evidence that the incremental tanning you describe actually protects you from skin cancer and will not cause other cancers? If not, this seems like a very reckless comment.

Melanoma is far more deadly than the other types of cancers. If building a base tan can protect you from the acute blistering burns that are known to cause melanoma, it may be worth it