[yawpitch]

> In the future we’ll pull people up to the floor, but that doesn’t require attaching a ceiling.

It absolutely does, right up until the exact future moment when EVERYONE is pulled up above (well above) the (bottom) floor. In other words no one should be at liberty to seek the ceiling until EVERYONE is out of the basement.

> The will never be a successful society that substantially punishes achievement above a certain point.

There has never been a successful society that hasn’t.

[beacon294]

> In other words no one should be at liberty to seek the ceiling until EVERYONE is out of the basement.

Can you explain your reasoning?

[mlrtime]

The reasoning is based on feelings, so changes with the wind and subjective.

[WendyTheWillow]

Again, you rely on the utterly false notion of a "zero-sum" economy, when in fact it may only be possible to pull everyone out of poverty if we allow people to be proportionately rewarded for their contributions.

[yawpitch]

That _may_ be true (though the fact that we _have long_ allowed them such rewards and they certainly have not pulled everyone out of poverty seems to auger against that hypothesis) until you prove that conclusively, however, we should continue to proportionally tax them on their earnings.

[WendyTheWillow]

"Prove conclusively" is not how any of this works.