[tsimionescu]

Object permanence is not "learned", it develops at around 7 months. Same as you don't "learn" to reach puberty, your body is pre-built to only start puberty at a certain age. Edit: I should note that object permanence in particular is a more contentious topic. Other parts of of our understanding of the world are more readily assigned to innate functions, though.

Note that many mammals have object permanence, and for some it develops right after birth. The fact that human development is so slow is the only reason some of these things look like actual learning. Another more clear example is our ability to walk/crawl - in humans it seems to be learned, but most other mammals are able to do it within minutes of being born, making it quite obvious it is in fact a genetically coded trait.

[jampekka]

If the babies don't see objects, they don't "develop" object permanence. Yeah, here we can summon the "use it or use it" copeout, but then the nativist account becomes unfalsifiable.

Being able to crawl within minutes (and even somewhat run within hours as horses do) is mostly due to anatomy and "reflex pathways". E.g. a cat can walk without brains [1], as can famosly headless chicken.

Human babies too have these kinds of reflexes but they are "abandoned" well before the baby learns to walk.

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wPiLLplofYw

[tsimionescu]

While I agree it makes it very hard to test some of these hypotheses, "use it or lose it" is very clearly true of at least some bodily and cognitive capacities. So it's not unfair to posit it could apply to these as well.

If you think quadruped walking is only a bunch of reflexes and human walking isn't, that still doesn't completely negate my point. Primate infants also display significantly more agility than human babies right afer birth, and "learn" to walk significantly faster.

Here [0] is a study for example that finds that the age of walking is 94% predictable for any mammalian species that walks on the ground by a particular ratio between the mass of the infant brain and the adult brain (that is, an infant animal essentially learns to walk when its brain reaches a certain percentage of its final brain size).

Besides this type of animal comparison, another signal we can use to distinguish between built-in capacities and things we learn from experience is to see whether a capacity can be developed later in life. For example, if you lack visual stimuli in the early part of brain development, even if you get it later, you will never develop vision (we know this from studies on kittens...).

[0] https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.0905777106