[esyir]

At the end of the day, fight from civvy areas, get civvy areas demolished. That's the nature of the beast.

If you establish HQ in a building, that's now an acceptable target. The alternative is that civilian areas are an invulnerability shield that lets you conduct whatever operations you want.

And this is Israel holding back. They have the option to level all of Gaza, they don't. They do roof knocks, conduct evacuations. And they didn't break the ceasefire conditions either.

[samuria]

Everything you said in your comment has been debunked. IDF claimed that Hamas had HQ in Al Shifa hospital, and all they found as proof was a calendar, and they stopped saying there was a HQ. They then moved onto another hospital claiming that was the correct HQ, then that turned out to not be true as well.

Regarding ceasefire, Israel has broken a total of 17 ceasefires in the past. Ranging from assassinations to straight up bombing civilians during ceasefire period.

I don't understand your reasoning with "they do roof knocks, and tell people to evacuate, so it's all good when civilian areas get demolished and children die, that's war!"

Israel has done nothing but lie since the beginning of this genocide.

This is all happening alongside the blatant terrorism happening in the West Bank with the settlers. You can't seriously defend a nation when the leader is openly saying "wipe them all out - all of them."

[edanm]

> Everything you said in your comment has been debunked

I'm sorry, if you seriously believe that - you are just factually wrong.

I urge you - if you're serious - try to view real journalistic accounts of what is going on. They're not all favorable to Israel, but at least they aren't going to completely misinform you about what's going on. Just as an example:

> IDF claimed that Hamas had HQ in Al Shifa hospital, and all they found as proof was a calendar, and they stopped saying there was a HQ.

This is completely false. They didn't "only find a calendar" and they didn't "stop saying there was an HQ there". There have been multiple videos showing ammunition recovered in the hospital, showing the undergroung tunnel network under the hospital, there was even a video of Hamas militants dragging in hostages into the hospital.

You're just straight up wrong about your facts.

[dang]

You've posted over 50 comments in this thread and some of them are crossing too far into battle, which is the spirit we asked everyone not to comment in (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616662). I realize that you have extremely legitimate reasons for feeling the way you do, but even so, I need to ask you to abide by that request. The same goes for the users who are arguing with you and I am going to post the same thing to some of them.

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[edanm]

I apologize, and I will try to do better.

[dang]

Appreciated!

[samuria]

I am in Israel at the moment, and the sheer amount of racism and prejudice I've seen towards the Palestinians is unlike anything I've seen or read before. I am not surprised they are resisting the apartheid state. If I was a little Palestinian child witnessing this atrocity, I would also be resisting in whatever "group" I could be apart of. Calling this terrorism is unjustified in my opinion.