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by lern_too_spel 925 days ago
Destroying Israel is different from killing Jews. One is replacing a government, which is not necessarily evil. The other is killing people, which is. Advocating violent attacks is the evil thing he does, not advocating replacement of the government.

What bothers me about many of these discussions is that the two are so often conflated. When somebody carries a Nazi Swastika or calls for violence against Jews, that is antisemitic. When somebody opposes Israel, that is not. https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-12-12/antisemitis...
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CloudYeller 925 days ago
You're right, destroying Israel Hamas-style (as described in https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-member-says-repeat-attacks-0656...) is different from killing Jews. One involves Hamas re-committing the unspeakable monstrosities of Oct 7th again and again, and another is just regular murder.

Congrats on writing the most ignorantly hateful comment I've ever seen on HN.

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lern_too_spel 924 days ago
You put words in my mouth. I won't congratulate you on creating the most ignorantly hateful comment out of whole cloth that I've ever seen on HN.
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aluminum96 925 days ago
> Destroying Israel is different from killing Jews

Israel exists because of the much-repeated global pogroms against Jews. The Mizrahi Jews fled Yemen, Morocco, and other Muslim countries because of antisemitic persecution. Beta Israel fled the Mengistu regime in Ethiopia, which threatened a Jewish genocide. Those Jews had that option because of the existence of Israel, a country located in the ancestral homeland of the Jews.

I sincerely believe that fighting for the destruction of Israel is akin to antisemitism. Because what will happen when the next round of Pogroms and genocides roll around? It's been happening for thousands of years, and as recently as the 70s. Jews need a safe country.

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lern_too_spel 925 days ago
> Jews need a safe country.

Does that justify taking land from others by force, instituting occasional pogroms on those who are displaced? Europe and North America have countries with stable governments that protect people from violence and accept refugees and allow them to purchase land legally without violence.

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