[vacuity]

I hear you. While reading your comment, I had the thought "'atrocities coming from all of the actors'? Are you saying they're equally bad?" Of course, that's not what you said and there are far better responses if one is concerned about debating the relative moral standings of Israel and Hamas. It was more of a kneejerk reaction, and I quickly dismissed that from rational consideration, but the fact that I thought it nonetheless (and, in a different world, just replied with that) is a bit unsettling. Especially when we can't be certain what's a truth or lie when it comes to coverage of this conflict, it's far too easy to lose sight of the nuance.

[smashah]

On a scale of 1-10, how nuanced is an Israeli Extermination Force executing a holocaust upon the prisoners of the Gaza concentration camp?

[vacuity]

While I don't deny many of the atrocities that the Israeli government seems to be doing, it's only part of what's going on. I support Israel withdrawing from Gaza (aside from providing aid) and focusing on actual defense, but Hamas will still be active. There's also more work that has to be done in both Israel and Gaza. It's not just a one-and-done situation that's as simple as "hey Israel, stop doing the bad thing".

[smashah]

Yes there should be a more substantial ask and price to pay for committing a Holocaust, just as Nazi Germany was dismantled, we in tech should be demanding of a ceasefire AND the dismantling of the Holocausting state of Israel.

[vacuity]

What would dismantling of Israel entail? I think Israel should be reformed to accept Palestinians and whatnot, but dismantling seems like a far stronger word.

[smashah]

This is my basic first draft proposal (nobody asked me, i know) for a dual-state solution as a fallback if a full single Palestinian state cannot be achieved (either case has 99% of the same suggestions from my perspective, Palestine from the river to the Sea with equal rights for all does not necessitate violence) :

https://twitter.com/smashah/status/1721992084167725078

(i forgot to add) + complete ban on MIC + Economic system completely realigned for joint and global humanitarianism (tikkun olam)

[vacuity]

If only the world in general could be more peaceable and not have separate states. Many of the elements could stand to be adopted in general. As it is, your plan mostly seems good, although I'm doubtful about how "anti-extremism" and "de-Zionification" classes would manifest in practice, and "single economy" seems really weird and chafing.