[panick21_]

What American cities need more then public housing, is housing. Actual policies that increase housing stock and make it possible to live in these places without a car.

That is how you actually decrease total cost of living.

The US has been trending up, between housing and transportation, a huge amount of people spend well above 50% of their income on that, and poorer people even more.

Public housing can be part of this, but by itself it wont fix anything.

[fosk]

America doesn’t have an housing problem. America has a drug problem.

It’s time we stop deceiving the public.

[cultureswitch]

House prices suggest there's a gigantic housing market problem.

[fosk]

We can't fill up the supportive housing units fast enough! New York has empty supportive housing units [1]. This suggests that the total number of vacancies might be even higher, as more units are added to the system regularly.

[1] - https://www.theday.com/state/20230529/thousands-of-nyc-apart...

[u32480932048]

Too bad the Housing Authority can't help smuggle houses over the border.

[ArtemZ]

There are plenty of houses in America, it just happens so that most of them are in less desirable places.

[fosk]

I think nobody is entitled to live in any city. You and I are not entitled to live in Manhattan if we can't afford it, we are not entitled to live in Beverly Hills if we don't have the means for it, and likewise the homeless are not entitled to live where they cannot be housed.

Otherwise, I would like to apply for a supportive housing unit penthouse on 5th avenue please.

[uoaei]

What a useless argument against a position no one is taking! Please participate in the conversation happening here, not some fantasy straw man. Comments like this are less than useless.

[fosk]

You must be new on the topic :) Let me accelerate this conversation for you:

1) Someone says we need housing.

2) I say: great, let's build it!

3) Someone says: but cities are not building enough housing, we need to invest more.

4) I say: great, let's build it anywhere in the US, where it is cheaper too. Population density in the US is very low.

5) Someone says: not like that! Homeless want to live in places like San Francisco, you can't relocate them.

6) I say: nobody can choose to live where they want if they don't have the means for it. <- WE ARE HERE.

[roenxi]

That is a common argument. If you spend time arguing with people about housing costs, houses in less desirable areas often turn out not to count for various reasons.

It makes a lot more sense to talk about how to support cheaper communities and migrate people to them than it does to bring down housing costs in expensive areas where the locals are fighting back against bringing in new people.

[uoaei]

Let's call this what it is: a pithy, meaningless, shameful, ideologically motivated, antisocial comment.